Pictured below from left to right are the trailcooking.com FBC Minimalist Cozy, the traildesigns.com Caldera Keg-H Cozy, and my SUL Cozy prototype. I decided to put these through a series of tests to compare my unit to others I have used.
For the testing, I placed 1/4 cup of couscous inside a quart size freezer bag, added a thermometer, and then 1/3 cup boiling water. I pushing most of the air out of the freezer bag, sealed it, then closed the cozy. I placed the cozy inside the 42 degree Fahrenheit refrigerator and set a timer for 10 minutes (the longest wait time for a FBC meal is usually about 8 minutes). I then recorded the temperature at 2 minute intervals with various minor changes. The chart below shows the results of the testing...
Minutes | FBC Minimalist Cozy | Trail Designs Keg-H Cozy w/cup | Trail Designs Keg-H Cozy w/o cup | SUL Cozy inside cuben stuff sack | SUL Cozy inside cuben stuff sack on top of pot lid | Cuben stuff sack only - on top of pot lid | Cuben stuff sack inside of Evernew .6L pot & lid | No cozy | |
1.15oz | 1.85oz | 0.7oz | 0.05oz | 0.05oz | 0.0oz | 0.0oz | 0.0oz | ||
2 | 146 | 171 | 160 | 168 | 164 | 167 | 155 | 156 | 163 |
4 | 136 | 165 | 158 | 167 | 153 | 158 | 144 | 145 | 152 |
6 | 129 | 158 | 157 | 165 | 145 | 152 | 135 | 140 | 144 |
8 | 123 | 153 | 155 | 162 | 138 | 147 | 128 | 135 | 137 |
10 | 119 | 147 | 152 | 158 | 132 | 142 | 123 | 130 | 131 |
Dif | 27 | 24 | 8 | 10 | 32 | 25 | 32 | 26 | 32 |
If you compare the temperature from the different units in the initial recording at the 2 minute mark, you can see that it varied quite a bit (note the same FBC unit was both the lowest and highest temperature at this mark), which proved my testing imperfect. I concluded that the time it took to seal the bag and close the cozy would have a big effect on this, and that the end temperature didn't necessarily reflect the performance of the cozy. What does tell the story is how much the temperature dropped in each situation between minutes 2 and 10. Before the testing, my thoughts were that the FBC Minimalist and the Trail Designs models would be very close in performance, and my SUL cozy would trail behind but still might be worth while. I was shocked that the FBC Minimalist didn't do much better than my SUL, and at how well the Trail Designs unit held the temperature, especially as compared to the other units. I was further surprised that using no cozy at all didn't do much worse than the two bottom performers.
CELEBRATE YOUR FAILURES!!!
While my SUL cozy was a nice try, it really didn't do much to hold the heat in. I found that putting the meal inside the pot and closing the lid did about the same as the 1.15oz cozy I have been carrying. My conclusion is that for very mild temperatures, not bringing a cozy is fine, but the amazing little back country oven pictured here will probably find its way into my pack most of the time. Without the plastic cup it comes with, it weights only 0.7oz and folds up nice and flat. My failure in a MYOG project ended up being a success in saving weight while improving performance!
While my SUL cozy was a nice try, it really didn't do much to hold the heat in. I found that putting the meal inside the pot and closing the lid did about the same as the 1.15oz cozy I have been carrying. My conclusion is that for very mild temperatures, not bringing a cozy is fine, but the amazing little back country oven pictured here will probably find its way into my pack most of the time. Without the plastic cup it comes with, it weights only 0.7oz and folds up nice and flat. My failure in a MYOG project ended up being a success in saving weight while improving performance!
I'm glad that you point out that not everything works. It's refreshing to have some honesty as not all ideas are good ideas, but all good ideas come out of trial and error and you never know until you try.
ReplyDeleteJolly Green Giant,
ReplyDeleteI couldn't agree more. Thanks for recognizing that. Failures eventually turn into successes!
John
I really enjoyed reading these two posts. You are doing things in a true entrepreneurial spirit and maintaining integrity and honesty too. We all make mistakes, (how many ideas have I had yet not done anything about), but sharing them with others helps others learn too.
ReplyDeleteKudos to you my friend!
Helen,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the kind words. I do think it's important to share what really happens, not just the occasional successful MYOG project. Trial and error, and never giving up, is what leads us to success!
John
Love the test. I want to play around with this using some datalogers at some point as they will let us graph out exactly what happens over time. I think some of then would hold up to being inside the pot while the water is boiling as well which opens up all sorts of interesting comparison testing ideas.
ReplyDeleteA few things you might try.
I'm pretty sure I saw aluminized cuben somewhere on the net. Should work as a radiant barrier like a space blanket but not insulation per se.
I suspect we might be able to use a piece of felted carbon in place of the standard reflectix and get a better R rating but I'd personally want it covered in something so I don't end up eating stray fibers. if it were wrapped in foil that might just work.
And of course if we could only get some decent sized sheets of aerogel :D